Ellym gives him the news, but he wants to hear it from his mouth. He says that he's not taking the challenge because he doesn't think he can defeat the tombguard, but because Ellys daughter wants him to. She wants to take down the tomb guard for good, and if he can't do it, she'll take whatever measures she can to get rid of him, even if it's suicide. Elly points out that there's no way he can do it himself, so he and his colleagues need someone to help him. He offers to lend them a bit of his power, but Elly refuses to show them his weapons. He wants to know more about how they're made, so they show him a blacksmith's forge. He's impressed by how well they've done it, and he says he'll use it to make his own weapons.