This chapter opens with a conversation between Hiroshi and the narrator. Hiroshi tells the narrator that he started playing rugby when his little brother joined the team. The narrator is shocked to learn that Hiroshi does not give a damn about his position on the team, and that he does not train as hard as other players. He also tells him that he has never gained a pound of muscle and that his stamina is twice as good as that of the next player. He then tells him about the current captain of the Japan national team, who does not care what other players think about his play. He does not even care about how many other players are doing well, because he only cares about himself. He says that he would like to be like Hiroshi, who has ten times the friends as he does, but if he gets creepy on him, he will be dead.