The narrator asks the rich guy if he has ever deceived him. The rich guy says that he has never deceived anyone. The narrator tells him that he is feeling inferior because of his lack of wealth and appearance. He asks if there is a meaning to the name of his son, and the narrator says that it was decided when his brother's and sister-in-law were still alive. He says that the man who named him, his grandfather, was his father's great-uncle. He tells the narrator that there may be "a huge gap" between his social status and his wealth.